new server

[yamo']

Hi,

I just build an usenet server (dodin.fr.nf)
the goal is to spread the fr* hierarchy.

If you want, I can feed fr.*.

* I want to feed only fr*, what may I do?

Just ask for and read the documentation :
<https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/software/inn/>

* is it possible, for the beginning to get only a small subset, for
testing purpose?
* don't seems to have cleanfeed in my openSUSE :-(. Any replacement? I
ask the openSUSE list as well

Cleanfeed is never packaged with INN, you can get it from :

<http://www.mixmin.net/cleanfeed/>
<https://github.com/crooks/cleanfeed>

the server if for now only dedicated to INN (but this may not be always
the case)
Serveur KS-7 - Intel i3-2130 - 8GB DDR3 1333 MHz - 2To SATA

Mine are on raspberry pi2 and pi4...

[Aioe]

Hello,
* I want to feed only fr*, what may I do?

an usenet feed may include all usenet articles or a subset only.
you have to request a peer only for the fr.* hierarchy when you ask for
a feed.

* is it possible, for the beginning to get only a small subset, for
testing purpose?

not less than a single hierarchy unless you've got a valid resaon to
request a so small feed

* don't seems to have cleanfeed in my openSUSE :-(. Any replacement? I
ask the openSUSE list as well

an old version of cleanfeed is at https://github.com/crooks/cleanfeed
if you're using inn 2.6 consider to choose pycleanfeed but i don't
remember where it's stored

the server if for now only dedicated to INN (but this may not be always
the case)

you should use a modern version of inn2 (inn 2.6.4)


write me an email if you need your fist feed

[Julien ÉLIE]

Hi Paolo,

Post by Aioe
an old version of cleanfeed is at https://github.com/crooks/cleanfeed
if you're using inn 2.6 consider to choose pycleanfeed but i don't
remember where it's stored

I'm running PyClean on my news server, and it works pretty well:
https://github.com/crooks/PyClean

[jdanield]

Post by Julien ÉLIE
Hi Paolo,

Post by Aioe
an old version of cleanfeed is at https://github.com/crooks/cleanfeed
if you're using inn 2.6 consider to choose pycleanfeed but i don't
remember where it's stored

https://github.com/crooks/PyClean

thanks

in my openSUSE default install I have in the filter folder

Post by Julien ÉLIE
ll

total 68
-rw-r--r-- 1 root news 6653 7 juin 2021 filter_innd.pl
-rw-r--r-- 1 root news 12181 7 juin 2021 filter_innd.py
-rw-r--r-- 1 root news 3015 7 juin 2021 filter_nnrpd.pl
-rw-r--r-- 1 root news 1047 7 juin 2021 INN.py
-rw-r--r-- 1 root news 4198 7 juin 2021 nnrpd_access.pl
-rw-r--r-- 1 root news 3972 7 juin 2021 nnrpd_access.py
-rw-r--r-- 1 root news 2806 7 juin 2021 nnrpd_auth.pl
-rw-r--r-- 1 root news 4496 7 juin 2021 nnrpd_auth.py
-rw-r--r-- 1 root news 4410 7 juin 2021 nnrpd_dynamic.py
-rw-r--r-- 1 root news 554 7 juin 2021 nnrpd.py
-rw-r--r-- 1 root news 1326 7 juin 2021 startup_innd.pl

pretty old:

$Id: filter_innd.pl 9205 2011-06-13 15:08:31Z iulius $
## $Id: filter_innd.py 10263 2018-03-10 14:51:53Z iulius

is it enough for a filter, Or do I have to replace them with PyClean?

thanks
jdd

[Julien ÉLIE]

Bonsoir Jean-Daniel,

Post by jdanield

    https://github.com/crooks/PyClean

in my openSUSE default install I have in the filter folder

ll

total 68
-rw-r--r-- 1 root news  6653  7 juin   2021 filter_innd.pl
-rw-r--r-- 1 root news 12181  7 juin   2021 filter_innd.py

[...]

These are just samples to show what functions are available, but they do
not contain any code for spam filtering.
You have to provide your own filter_innd.pl (Cleanfeed) or
filter_innd.py (PyClean).

Post by jdanield
 $Id: filter_innd.pl 9205 2011-06-13 15:08:31Z iulius $
##  $Id: filter_innd.py 10263 2018-03-10 14:51:53Z iulius
is it enough for a filter, Or do I have to replace them with PyClean?

% ls -la /home/news/bin/filter
lrwxrwxrwx 1 news news 30 20 sept. 10:08 filter_innd.pl ->
/home/news/cleanfeed/cleanfeed*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 news news 29 20 sept. 12:14 filter_innd.py ->
/home/news/pyclean/pyclean.py


% ls -la /home/news/cleanfeed
-rwxr-xr-x 1 news news 95K 4 déc. 12:49 cleanfeed*
drwxr-xr-x 2 news news 4,0K 21 nov. 10:24 etc/
drwxr-xr-x 2 news news 4,0K 20 sept. 09:50 logs/

% ls -la /home/news/pyclean
drwxr-xr-x 2 news news 4,0K 20 sept. 12:11 articles/
drwxr-xr-x 2 news news 4,0K 20 sept. 12:10 etc/
drwxr-xr-x 2 news news 4,0K 27 sept. 12:47 lib/
drwxr-xr-x 2 news news 4,0K 18 déc. 00:32 log/
-rw-r--r-- 1 news news 66K 20 sept. 12:12 pyclean.py


One of them is enough. (I'm just running both for testing purpose.)

You can see that cleanfeed is 95K and pyclean.py 66K, much more than the
samples provided in a stock INN install.

[jdanield]

Post by Julien ÉLIE
These are just samples to show what functions are available, but they do
not contain any code for spam filtering.

ok, understood

thanks
jdd

[jdanield]

Post by Julien ÉLIE
lrwxrwxrwx 1 news news 29 20 sept. 12:14 filter_innd.py ->
/home/news/pyclean/pyclean.py

done

Post by Julien ÉLIE
% ls -la /home/news/pyclean
drwxr-xr-x 2 news news 4,0K 20 sept. 12:11 articles/
drwxr-xr-x 2 news news 4,0K 20 sept. 12:10 etc/
drwxr-xr-x 2 news news 4,0K 27 sept. 12:47 lib/
drwxr-xr-x 2 news news 4,0K 18 déc. 00:32 log/
-rw-r--r-- 1 news news 66K 20 sept. 12:12 pyclean.py

I have pyclean.py there

Have I to create the other folders?

thanks
jdd

[Julien ÉLIE]

Bonsoir Jean-Daniel,

Post by jdanield

lrwxrwxrwx 1 news news   29 20 sept. 12:14 filter_innd.py ->
/home/news/pyclean/pyclean.py

done

% ls -la /home/news/pyclean
drwxr-xr-x  2 news news 4,0K 20 sept. 12:11 articles/
drwxr-xr-x  2 news news 4,0K 20 sept. 12:10 etc/
drwxr-xr-x  2 news news 4,0K 27 sept. 12:47 lib/
drwxr-xr-x  2 news news 4,0K 18 déc.  00:32 log/
-rw-r--r--  1 news news  66K 20 sept. 12:12 pyclean.py

I have pyclean.py there
Have I to create the other folders?

I would at least create "etc" and put there the 4 configuration files
(with the name of your local server in local_hosts):
- etc/local_hosts
- etc/log_rules
- etc/ih_substrings
- etc/pyclean.cfg

I think the other folders will be created by PyClean. In case it does
not work, try to create the other folders.
You will normally see log/pyclean.log if PyClean is correctly seen by
INN. Otherwise, have a look at your news log files (like news.crit,
news.err and news.notice) to see if something is wrong somewhere. And
make sure Python filtering is enabled.

% ctlinnd mode
Python filtering enabled

[jdanield]

Post by Julien ÉLIE
% ctlinnd mode
Python filtering enabled

well... fail. perl is enabled, but python option is not even present in
ctlinnd here :-(

I just have to revert to cleanfeed...

sorry for the disturbance :-(

jdd

[Julien ÉLIE]

Bonsoir Jean-Daniel,

Post by jdanield

Post by Julien ÉLIE
% ctlinnd mode
Python filtering enabled

well... fail. perl is enabled, but python option is not even present in
ctlinnd here :-(

Oh, wait a minute. Reading your answer, I remember that this "Python
filtering disable|enabled" line will be present in INN 2.6.5 (not yet
released). I recently added it, when I saw the comment was present for
Perl but not for Python.
So, it is normal you do not see it.

Post by jdanield
I just have to revert to cleanfeed...

What is the result of:
ctlinnd reload filter.python ''
?

You'll see with that command whether Python support is really available.
If the command returns "Unknown reload type", it won't be a good
sign... and then, yes, you'll probably want to use Perl cleanfeed spam
filter.

[jdanield]

Post by Julien ÉLIE
sign... and then, yes, you'll probably want to use Perl cleanfeed spam
filter.

it's not a big deal.

right now my INN session don't start with "aioe funnel_bad", but I guess
it's simply because my aioe config is not yet accepted aioe side

in this Christmas period, I don't expect fast answer :-)

thanks
jdd

[jdanield]

Post by Aioe

Hello,
* I want to feed only fr*, what may I do?

an usenet feed may include all usenet articles or a subset only.
you have to request a peer only for the fr.* hierarchy when you ask for
a feed.

yes, it's what I want

Post by Aioe

* is it possible, for the beginning to get only a small subset, for
testing purpose?

not less than a single hierarchy unless you've got a valid resaon to
request a so small feed

ok, not a problem for me

Post by Aioe

* don't seems to have cleanfeed in my openSUSE :-(. Any replacement? I
ask the openSUSE list as well

I have INN 2.6.2-bp153.3.3.1 (openSUSE Leap 15.3, up to date)

Post by Aioe
an old version of cleanfeed is at https://github.com/crooks/cleanfeed
if you're using inn 2.6 consider to choose pycleanfeed

tryed it (with Julien help), but my INN version is not python friendly
:-(. So installed cleanfeed from; github:

https://github.com/crooks/cleanfeed

Post by Aioe
write me an email if you need your fist feed

I expect instructions, because my inn do not start anymore, for obvious
reasons:

déc. 20 10:30:31 ns507557 innd[19235]: aioe funnel_bad

my report:

http://www.dodin.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Doc.ConfigurerINN-2021

thanks
jdd

[yamo']

Hi,

Post by jdanield
I expect instructions, because my inn do not start anymore, for obvious
déc. 20 10:30:31 ns507557 innd[19235]: aioe funnel_bad

Maybe bad configuration in innfeed.conf and newsfeeds :

in newsfeeds :
aioe/aioe.org:fr.*:Ap,C20,G12,<32768,Tm:innfeed!


in innfeed.conf :
peer aioe {
ip-name: news-in.aioe.org
# dynamic-method: 1
# bindaddress6: none
}

Post by jdanield
http://www.dodin.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Doc.ConfigurerINN-2021

Have you updated your active file?

<https://git.alphanet.ch/gitweb/?p=inn-install/.git;a=blob_plain;f=README.html;hb=HEAD#mise-%C3%A0-jour-de-la-liste-dactive>

For fr as news :
curl \
"http://usenet.trigofacile.com/hierarchies
/index.py?see=FR&only=checkgroups"\
| /usr/lib/news/bin/docheckgroups -u\
| /usr/lib/news/bin/mod-active

[jdanield]

Hi,

Post by jdanield
déc. 20 10:30:31 ns507557 innd[19235]: aioe funnel_bad

nope. I had copied the config for peer aioe, but the link is not yet
established, so the error is normal. I commented out theses parts and
INN runs again.

thanks
jdd

[yamo']

Salut,

Post by jdanield

Post by jdanield
déc. 20 10:30:31 ns507557 innd[19235]: aioe funnel_bad

nope. I had copied the config for peer aioe, but the link is not yet
established, so the error is normal. I commented out theses parts and
INN runs again.

You can ask me by mail a peering!

bad funnel maybe a bad line in newsfeed configuration file :

innfeed!\
:!*\
:Tc,Wnm*:/usr/lib/news/bin/innfeed

Or bad Unix rights :
<https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages//trusty/man8/innfeed.8.html>

[jdanield]

Post by yamo'
Salut,
You can ask me by mail a peering!

that's ok, but your mail seems invalid. Mine is not, you can email me t
begin the share
I did copy/paste the aioe config, but I guess it have to be the same at
the other side to work. Here, after commenting out aioe config it works
again.

thanks, I wait for your mail :-). But I need step by step instructions,
it's my first time here :-(

jdd

[jdanield]

My Reply-to is valid but I have sent you a mail.

yes, received it.

thank to yamo's hints (given in private mail) I could make my inn to
start with peers data: the innfeed option in newsfeeds was commented out...


jdd

[yamo']

Hi,

Post by jdanield
thank to yamo's hints (given in private mail) I could make my inn to
start with peers data: the innfeed option in newsfeeds was commented out...

Your feeding may work but in the other side you don't have configured my
feed in incoming.conf

[jdanield]

Hi,

I have. I just restarted inn in case

dodin:0 cxnsleep response unknown: 502 502 IHAVE command disabled by
administrator

sorry, I have no idea of what that mean.

groups and contents (articles) seems to be shared between us :-)

I also have other concern, but I have to read again this thread to check

thanks
jdd

[jdd]

Hi jdd, I suspect that just maybe you are confusing your link with
yamo' to your link with my server (i2pn.org). Both directions with
i2pn and your server are working, and you and I discussed innfeed in
email.
Retro Guy i2pn.org

oh... sorry.

it's right, I have only a working system with you (i2pn) and may be
aioe, but I didn't check this one yet.

I also had a message from yamo', with the necessary config (thanks!).

but right now I don't have a rock solid config, so it's probably better
not to have too many people in the loop if it turns bad :-(

So I will stay with you if you agree, until all is checked.

all in one it's much harder than I was thinking initially :-(. Specially
when Christmas knock at the door and most people (including me) have
also much other things to do :-)

thanks you all, guys and

happy Christmas!!

jdd

[The Doctor]

Hello,
I just build an usenet server (dodin.fr.nf)
the goal is to spread the fr* hierarchy.
I already used to have such a server, but only for private use, I never
feed any peer.
https://news.aioe.org/documentation/how-to-setup-a-feed-with-aioeorg/
But
* I want to feed only fr*, what may I do?
* is it possible, for the beginning to get only a small subset, for
testing purpose?
* don't seems to have cleanfeed in my openSUSE :-(. Any replacement? I
ask the openSUSE list as well
the server if for now only dedicated to INN (but this may not be always
the case)
Serveur KS-7 - Intel i3-2130 - 8GB DDR3 1333 MHz - 2To SATA
thanks
jdd

I am doing this with Julien Elie , the current INN maintainer.

--
http://dodin.org
http://valeriedodin.com

[jdanield]

Post by The Doctor
I am doing this with Julien Elie , the current INN maintainer.

I know him (I'm a member of french usenet comity), but I try to disturb
him as little as possible :-)

thanks
jdd

[Nigel Reed]

On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 18:38:55 +0100

Hello,
I just build an usenet server (dodin.fr.nf)
the goal is to spread the fr* hierarchy.
I already used to have such a server, but only for private use, I
never feed any peer.
https://news.aioe.org/documentation/how-to-setup-a-feed-with-aioeorg/
But
* I want to feed only fr*, what may I do?
* is it possible, for the beginning to get only a small subset, for
testing purpose?
* don't seems to have cleanfeed in my openSUSE :-(. Any replacement?
I ask the openSUSE list as well
the server if for now only dedicated to INN (but this may not be
always the case)
Serveur KS-7 - Intel i3-2130 - 8GB DDR3 1333 MHz - 2To SATA
thanks
jdd
--
http://dodin.org
http://valeriedodin.com

I have 305 fr. newsgroups. I have no idea if they have any traffic, but
you're welcome to a feed. See www.endofthelinebbs.com/peering.html for
details. Make sure you let me know what you want me to put in my config
for your feed.

Thanks,
Nigel

[Retro Guy]

On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 18:38:55 +0100

Hello,
I just build an usenet server (dodin.fr.nf)
the goal is to spread the fr* hierarchy.
* I want to feed only fr*, what may I do?

As others have already answered, it's a simple configuration to do so.
I currently have a couple of peers for specific hierarchies.

If you are interested in peering with i2pn.org (my servers) please just
send me an email at ***@i2pn.org and we can get set up.