Beginner at running Inn2, looking for a peering connection for a private news server

[Sirius]

Hello,

TL;DR - looking for a peering setup for a single user instance of Inn2. In
time my kids and wife may join me on Usenet, but that is not yet.

Longer version;
I learned about and used Usenet some 30 years ago, alongside Fidonet. I am
getting _very_ tired of the 'modern' interwebs and I want to get back into
Usenet. And yes, once I figure out why my router is so reluctant
forwarding port 70, I will be running a Gopher server as well.

Running Inn2 stems from my work where I want/need to keep up with a dozen
or so linux kernel mailing lists which so happens are available via NNTP
to read at nntp.lore.kernel.org. But reading them remote was very slow, so
as any self-respecting geek, the answer was naturally to spin up Inn2 and
mirror down the lists I wanted so I have them locally with a year worth of
articles for history.

Now I would like to get peering so that I have most of the Big8 locally as
well and I can post locally and have it funnel out. I have not set up
peering before so I may need an extra pointer or two. I can guarantee that
there will be no spam as the only user is me and maybe my immediate family
(wife and kids) should they become interested which I am not counting on.

I do not want any binary groups, just the text ones, and if possible, I
would like to be able to get a backlog from the groups using nntpget and a
date, so that I have some light reading until they start to fill up
naturally.

I am located in Sweden and the server is running Debian 12 and Inn2
version 2.7.1.

[Ivo Gandolfo]

Post by Sirius
Hello,
TL;DR - looking for a peering setup for a single user instance of Inn2. In
time my kids and wife may join me on Usenet, but that is not yet.

[cut]

Post by Sirius
I am located in Sweden and the server is running Debian 12 and Inn2
version 2.7.1.

Just send me an email, this is data to setup peer with me, send me your
info (and prepare a postcard like this for future use ;)


Sincerely

[Julien ÉLIE]

Hi Sirius,

Post by Sirius
Running Inn2 stems from my work where I want/need to keep up with a dozen
or so linux kernel mailing lists which so happens are available via NNTP
to read at nntp.lore.kernel.org. But reading them remote was very slow, so
as any self-respecting geek, the answer was naturally to spin up Inn2 and
mirror down the lists I wanted so I have them locally with a year worth of
articles for history.

Nice!

Post by Sirius
I would like to be able to get a backlog from the groups using nntpget and a
date, so that I have some light reading until they start to fill up
naturally.

I would recommend the use of pullnews, which is more configurable and
probably more used than nntpget:
https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/software/inn/docs/pullnews.html

Also, nntpget relies on the NEWNEWS command, which is not always enabled
on upstream news servers.

[Sirius]

Post by Julien ÉLIE
Hi Sirius,

Hello Julien,

Post by Julien ÉLIE

Post by Sirius
I would like to be able to get a backlog from the groups using nntpget and a
date, so that I have some light reading until they start to fill up
naturally.

I would recommend the use of pullnews, which is more configurable and
https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/software/inn/docs/pullnews.html

For the nntp.lore.kernel.org, I ended up using "suck" which permits me
using a filter to apply to the posts before it sends them onto inn2. Let's
just say that I got really irritated over the "no space after colon" error
messages and the worst offender by far is Microsoft Exchange/Outlook.
(Yes, they technically adhere to *email* RFCs but it is still a pain.)

Post by Julien ÉLIE
Also, nntpget relies on the NEWNEWS command, which is not always enabled
on upstream news servers.

True, but I have not found another tool that allow me to specify "get all
the articles in this group as of this date". I _could_ request everything
and then let expire flush the old articles, but was thinking to be kind to
upstream and only request that which would not immediately be flushed by
expire.

[Ted Heise]

On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 22:54:07 +0200,

Post by Julien ÉLIE
Hi Sirius,

Post by Sirius
Running Inn2 stems from my work where I want/need to keep up
with a dozen or so linux kernel mailing lists which so happens
are available via NNTP to read at nntp.lore.kernel.org. But
reading them remote was very slow, so as any self-respecting
geek, the answer was naturally to spin up Inn2 and mirror down
the lists I wanted so I have them locally with a year worth of
articles for history.

Nice!

Post by Sirius
I would like to be able to get a backlog from the groups using
nntpget and a date, so that I have some light reading until
they start to fill up naturally.

I would recommend the use of pullnews, which is more
https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/software/inn/docs/pullnews.html

I've had quite good results with leafnode.

[Grant Taylor]

Post by Sirius
Hello,

Hi,

Post by Sirius
TL;DR - looking for a peering setup for a single user instance of
Inn2. In time my kids and wife may join me on Usenet, but that is
not yet.

I'd be happy to peer with you.

Email me directly so that we can discuss details and get things configured.

[candycanearter07]

Post by Sirius
Hello,
TL;DR - looking for a peering setup for a single user instance of Inn2. In
time my kids and wife may join me on Usenet, but that is not yet.
Longer version;
I learned about and used Usenet some 30 years ago, alongside Fidonet. I am
getting _very_ tired of the 'modern' interwebs and I want to get back into
Usenet. And yes, once I figure out why my router is so reluctant
forwarding port 70, I will be running a Gopher server as well.
Running Inn2 stems from my work where I want/need to keep up with a dozen
or so linux kernel mailing lists which so happens are available via NNTP
to read at nntp.lore.kernel.org. But reading them remote was very slow, so
as any self-respecting geek, the answer was naturally to spin up Inn2 and
mirror down the lists I wanted so I have them locally with a year worth of
articles for history.
Now I would like to get peering so that I have most of the Big8 locally as
well and I can post locally and have it funnel out. I have not set up
peering before so I may need an extra pointer or two. I can guarantee that
there will be no spam as the only user is me and maybe my immediate family
(wife and kids) should they become interested which I am not counting on.

So, you're just going to set up a server on the local net of your
router?

Post by Sirius
I do not want any binary groups, just the text ones, and if possible, I
would like to be able to get a backlog from the groups using nntpget and a
date, so that I have some light reading until they start to fill up
naturally.
I am located in Sweden and the server is running Debian 12 and Inn2
version 2.7.1.

Well, I'm glad you're so "sirius" about getting into the space!! I wish
you the best of luck.

[Sirius]

Post by candycanearter07
So, you're just going to set up a server on the local net of your
router?

Past tense - it is already running. :)

My spam-filter is apparently too good for certain mailing list software
and some of them will unsubscribe you silently (linux-***@kvack.org -
looking at you) if you do not accept all messages from the list.

So I figured, wth, in for a penny, in for a pound. Few weeks later, it is
chugging along quite nicely and peering was kind of the last item on the
list to do. :)

Post by candycanearter07
Well, I'm glad you're so "sirius" about getting into the space!! I wish
you the best of luck.

Thank you. It has been a few years since I last was tinkering with Usenet,
but I have never forgotten it. Hopefully I can contribute something from
now on.

[candycanearter07]

Post by Sirius

Post by candycanearter07
So, you're just going to set up a server on the local net of your
router?

Past tense - it is already running. :)
My spam-filter is apparently too good for certain mailing list software
looking at you) if you do not accept all messages from the list.
So I figured, wth, in for a penny, in for a pound. Few weeks later, it is
chugging along quite nicely and peering was kind of the last item on the
list to do. :)

That's good! Hope it keeps running.

Post by Sirius

Post by candycanearter07
Well, I'm glad you're so "sirius" about getting into the space!! I wish
you the best of luck.

Thank you. It has been a few years since I last was tinkering with Usenet,
but I have never forgotten it. Hopefully I can contribute something from
now on.

Cheers!

[Nigel Reed]

On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 11:15:34 +0200

Post by Sirius
Hello,
TL;DR - looking for a peering setup for a single user instance of
Inn2. In time my kids and wife may join me on Usenet, but that is not
yet.
Longer version;
I learned about and used Usenet some 30 years ago, alongside Fidonet.
I am getting _very_ tired of the 'modern' interwebs and I want to get
back into Usenet. And yes, once I figure out why my router is so
reluctant forwarding port 70, I will be running a Gopher server as
well.
Running Inn2 stems from my work where I want/need to keep up with a
dozen or so linux kernel mailing lists which so happens are available
via NNTP to read at nntp.lore.kernel.org. But reading them remote was
very slow, so as any self-respecting geek, the answer was naturally
to spin up Inn2 and mirror down the lists I wanted so I have them
locally with a year worth of articles for history.
Now I would like to get peering so that I have most of the Big8
locally as well and I can post locally and have it funnel out. I have
not set up peering before so I may need an extra pointer or two. I
can guarantee that there will be no spam as the only user is me and
maybe my immediate family (wife and kids) should they become
interested which I am not counting on.
I do not want any binary groups, just the text ones, and if possible,
I would like to be able to get a backlog from the groups using
nntpget and a date, so that I have some light reading until they
start to fill up naturally.
I am located in Sweden and the server is running Debian 12 and Inn2
version 2.7.1.

https://www.endofthelinebbs.com/peering.html

My information is there, along with email contact to send yours. I'll
get you setup.

Thanks,