Peering Request

[Jesse Rehmer]

Hello,

After a bit of a hiatus I’m back and looking for peers. Due to a series of
unfortunate events and a lack of free-time I had to scrap the Usenet service
I had running.

My peering mission is simple, to participate in the transmission of
non-binary Usenet articles. I run the server for my own purposes, but love
the idea of Usenet and propagation of data, so I enjoy having a lot of peers.
Does not matter if you are a long-time newsmaster or someone new who needs a
peer to tinker with NNTP. As long as you are a non-abusive peer I’m happy
to setup a feed.

Pathname: usenet.blueworldhosting.com
Accept From: usenet.blueworldhosting.com
Send To: usenet.blueworldhosting.com
Max. article Size: 64KB
Network(s): AS1610 (primary) / AS36473
Peering Location(s): St. Louis, MO USA
Port: 119
Hierarchies: *,!unidata.*,@*.bina*,@*.bain*,@*.dateien*,@*.pictures*

Server is running INN 2.7.0 with PyClean and NoCeM

Further info at https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com

Cheers,

Jesse Rehmer

[Nigel Reed]

On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 12:02:28 -0500

Post by Jesse Rehmer
Hello,
After a bit of a hiatus I’m back and looking for peers. Due to a
series of unfortunate events and a lack of free-time I had to scrap
the Usenet service I had running.
My peering mission is simple, to participate in the transmission of
non-binary Usenet articles. I run the server for my own purposes, but
love the idea of Usenet and propagation of data, so I enjoy having a
lot of peers. Does not matter if you are a long-time newsmaster or
someone new who needs a peer to tinker with NNTP. As long as you are
a non-abusive peer I’m happy to setup a feed.
Pathname: usenet.blueworldhosting.com
Accept From: usenet.blueworldhosting.com
Send To: usenet.blueworldhosting.com
Max. article Size: 64KB
Network(s): AS1610 (primary) / AS36473
Peering Location(s): St. Louis, MO USA
Port: 119

I have you all setup here. You can find my details at
https://www.endofthelinebbs.com/peering.html


Thanks,
Nigel

[Miner]

Post by Nigel Reed
On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 12:02:28 -0500
I have you all setup here. You can find my details at
https://www.endofthelinebbs.com/peering.html

Which tool do you use to generate such data?

[Nigel Reed]

On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 08:37:08 -0000 (UTC)

Post by Miner

Post by Nigel Reed
On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 12:02:28 -0500
I have you all setup here. You can find my details at
https://www.endofthelinebbs.com/peering.html

Which tool do you use to generate such data?

Erm, vim. It's a static webpage :)

[Julien ÉLIE]

Hi Jesse,

Post by Jesse Rehmer
After a bit of a hiatus I’m back and looking for peers.

Welcome back!

Post by Jesse Rehmer
Network(s): AS1610 (primary) / AS36473

My question may sound weird (I don't know how hosting and ISP work in
the USA): what does it change in practice that the news server is on
these networks? It is just for optimizing latency (if your peers are on
the same network) or are there fees to pay when you have too much
traffic outside these networks? or...?

Post by Jesse Rehmer
Server is running INN 2.7.0 with PyClean and NoCeM

I too like PyClean better!

Are you running INN 2.7.0 built from sources by your own or has a
version already been packaged in your distribution?
Did you enable native Cancel-Lock support, set up in inn-secrets.conf?

[Jesse Rehmer]

Post by Julien ÉLIE
Hi Jesse,
Welcome back!

Thanks, Julien!

Post by Julien ÉLIE
My question may sound weird (I don't know how hosting and ISP work in
the USA): what does it change in practice that the news server is on
these networks?  It is just for optimizing latency (if your peers are on
the same network) or are there fees to pay when you have too much
traffic outside these networks? or...?

The AS/ISP info is usually not applicable these days, especially for a
text-only feed. I still put it there out of habit. I doubt anyone
besides entities exchanging full feeds would care about the AS
information. For example, certain providers (mostly in the Netherlands)
will exchange a full feed at no cost if you are on a network that their
provider(s) have peering agreements with (no bandwidth cost for them to
use those peered interconnects, basically).

Post by Julien ÉLIE
I too like PyClean better!

I admit I have not looked through the code to compare, but overall "out
of the box" PyClean seems to do a better job without tinkering. There
is more documentation and information/discussion to be found about the
perl/Cleanfeed version, though.

On that note I am having a harder time searching for things that used to
be relatively easy to find. Either Google has de-ranked the results, or
many sites have gone offline making it more difficult to find
INN-specific things. For instance, I know I used to have code/filters
to change the hostname in the Message-ID if the user's posting agent
does a poor job at Message-ID generation. Years ago searching for
something like that wasn't too difficult, but for the life of me I
cannot find certain tidbits like that any longer.

Post by Julien ÉLIE
Are you running INN 2.7.0 built from sources by your own or has a
version already been packaged in your distribution?
Did you enable native Cancel-Lock support, set up in inn-secrets.conf?

I'm building from source using one of the recent snapshots. I have been
meaning to post to the inn-workers list because I cannot get innd to
start when compiled with Cancel-Lock support. I have the library
compiled and installed - configure finds it and all compiles fine, but
when innd starts it fails stating it cannot find the shared library. I
tried compiling a few different ways (using
--with-canlock=/path/to/canlock, for example), but could only get innd
to start if I compiled --without-canlock.

I'm sure it has something to do with how the library is installed, but
have not dug deeper. I downloaded the libcanlock 3.3.0 package from
https://micha.freeshell.org/libcanlock/src/info.html and did the basic
configure && make && make install.

Cheers,

Jesse

[Julien ÉLIE]

Hi Jesse,

Post by Jesse Rehmer
The AS/ISP info is usually not applicable these days, especially for a
text-only feed.  I still put it there out of habit.  I doubt anyone
besides entities exchanging full feeds would care about the AS
information.  For example, certain providers (mostly in the Netherlands)
will exchange a full feed at no cost if you are on a network that their
provider(s) have peering agreements with (no bandwidth cost for them to
use those peered interconnects, basically).

OK, thanks for your answer.

Post by Jesse Rehmer
I know I used to have code/filters
to change the hostname in the Message-ID if the user's posting agent
does a poor job at Message-ID generation.  Years ago searching for
something like that wasn't too difficult, but for the life of me I
cannot find certain tidbits like that any longer.

The question would be whether it is still necessary nowadays to have
such a filter to modify the Message-IDs of posts...
Notably, when RFC 5537 specifically states that an injecting agent "MUST
NOT alter or delete any existing Message-ID header field".

Post by Jesse Rehmer

Post by Julien ÉLIE
Are you running INN 2.7.0 built from sources by your own or has a
version already been packaged in your distribution?
Did you enable native Cancel-Lock support, set up in inn-secrets.conf?

I'm building from source using one of the recent snapshots.  I have been
meaning to post to the inn-workers list because I cannot get innd to
start when compiled with Cancel-Lock support. I have the library > compiled and installed - configure finds it and all compiles fine

As well as "make tests"?

Post by Jesse Rehmer
but when innd starts it fails stating it cannot find the shared library.
I tried compiling a few different ways (using
--with-canlock=/path/to/canlock, for example), but could only get innd
to start if I compiled --without-canlock.
I'm sure it has something to do with how the library is installed, but
have not dug deeper.  I downloaded the libcanlock 3.3.0 package from
https://micha.freeshell.org/libcanlock/src/info.html and did the basic
configure && make && make install.

I use --with-canlock=/home/news/work/libcanlock-3.3.0 to build INN.
As for libcanlock, I run "configure
--prefix=/home/news/work/libcanlock-3.3.0".
innd manages to find the library (in /home/news/work/libcanlock-3.3.0/lib).

[Jesse Rehmer]

Post by Julien ÉLIE
As well as "make tests"?

Admittedly, no (I'm a rebel?), but it is the same output:

./tests/runtests -o lib/canlock
/home/news/inn-2.7-20220309/tests/lib/.libs/lt-canlock.t: error while
loading shared libraries: libcanlock.so.3: cannot open shared object
file: No such file or directory

Post by Julien ÉLIE
I use --with-canlock=/home/news/work/libcanlock-3.3.0 to build INN.
As for libcanlock, I run "configure
--prefix=/home/news/work/libcanlock-3.3.0".
innd manages to find the library (in /home/news/work/libcanlock-3.3.0/lib).

Ah, I will try that approach. I did not specify an installation prefix
for libcanlock, so it used the default /usr/local structure.

Cheers,

Jesse

[Jesse Rehmer]

Post by Jesse Rehmer

Post by Julien ÉLIE
As well as "make tests"?

./tests/runtests -o lib/canlock
/home/news/inn-2.7-20220309/tests/lib/.libs/lt-canlock.t: error while
loading shared libraries: libcanlock.so.3: cannot open shared object
file: No such file or directory

Post by Julien ÉLIE
I use --with-canlock=/home/news/work/libcanlock-3.3.0 to build INN.
As for libcanlock, I run "configure
--prefix=/home/news/work/libcanlock-3.3.0".
innd manages to find the library (in /home/news/work/libcanlock-3.3.0/lib).

Ah, I will try that approach. I did not specify an installation prefix
for libcanlock, so it used the default /usr/local structure.
Cheers,
Jesse

I was able to get Cancel-Lock support working after building/installing
libcavnlock in a similar way as your example. Thank you for the assistance,
Julien!

[Julien ÉLIE]

Hi Jesse,

Post by Jesse Rehmer

Post by Julien ÉLIE
I use --with-canlock=/home/news/work/libcanlock-3.3.0 to build INN.
As for libcanlock, I run "configure
--prefix=/home/news/work/libcanlock-3.3.0".
innd manages to find the library (in /home/news/work/libcanlock-3.3.0/lib).

I was able to get Cancel-Lock support working after building/installing
libcanlock in a similar way as your example. Thank you for the assistance,
Julien!

You're welcome.
And I'm glad to see that your last message contains a Cancel-Lock header
field generated by INN :-)

If you prefer the standard locations where libcanlock has been
installed, you may want to use --with-canlock-include=path and
--with-canlock-lib=path to specify the paths to header files and the
library.

[Grant Taylor]

Post by Jesse Rehmer
Hello,

Hi,

Post by Jesse Rehmer
After a bit of a hiatus I’m back and looking for peers.

Please send me a direct email.

I'll be configuring some other new peers this weekend and would be happy
to add you at the same time.

[The Doctor]

Post by Grant Taylor

Post by Jesse Rehmer
Hello,

Hi,

Post by Jesse Rehmer
After a bit of a hiatus I’m back and looking for peers.

Please send me a direct email.
I'll be configuring some other new peers this weekend and would be happy
to add you at the same time.

News.nk.ca will peer with anyone, except spammers!

Post by Grant Taylor
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